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From the Heights of Machu Picchu

In Pablo Neruda' s poem, he addresses the death of the Inca Civilization. On the Heights of Machu Picchu, he stands among a graveyard if an eradicated people by the hands of the Spanish Colonials. The year is 1966 and Chili stands on a razor's edge between suppression or equality. Pablo empathizes with the Inca's and asks for their suppressed rage to "speak through [his] speech, and through [his] blood". Pablo is clearly calling out to the people of Chili, and calling to their attention the same suppression that destroyed the Inca's now exist through Chilean politics.

Canto XII-Neruda

I believe that this poem by Pablo Neruda is one of rebirth, life and death and revolution. with a hit of christianity and a slight allusion to Jesus. for example " the wood they crucify your body". as far as revolution Neruda says to " kindle your lamps" much like Israelites. all this is for the soul purpose to not let his people(the people of chile) to fall to the same fait as the incas once did.

Poem

the poem by Pablo Neruda is about the revolution in Chile in the 1960s. Throughout the poem he speaks for different people who can speak for themselves. I believe that these people are the many who died during the revolution and were either killed in captivity or killed in the fighting. I also translated the poem to be a sort of cry for help. Or at least a cry for recognition from the people who had brushed under the rug. As the poem says he is talking for the people in the ground and the people without voices. and without the ability to tell their story. Pablo takes it upon himself to show a whole country its dark past and to shed some light on the skeletons in its history.

Thea's blog : Canto XII The Heights of Macchu Picchu

In the poem"Canto XII from the Heights of Macchu Picchu", the author Pablo Neruda suggests the theme of suffering. He begins by explaining the laboring life of the incas in the time of the Conquistadors. The author explains the dedication each laborer had put in to their work and the suffering that resulted from it. Suffering is not only apparent in the laboring efforts of the incas but he relates this to religion. He explains that suffering doesn't only have to come from hard efforts or if it does it should be the same for everyone. The socialist speaks for the dead to say that all efforts should be considered equal.

Canto XII from The Heights of Maccu Piccu

Canto XII from The Heights of Maccu Piccu written by Pablo Neruda in 1966 is a poem first for the Incas in the time of the Conquistadors. But the author also compares the Inca time with the 1960s. It shows us the violent at these times. The author wants that the people realize that they have done mistakes and he wants that the people learn from that. Pablo Neruda believes that doing something, helps you always more than only watching. Like the Incas only watched the Spanish people taking their land. Also Neruda wants that people work together, because a group can change a lot more that an induvidual.

I think that Pablo Neruda created this poem to inspire a people. It was for the people of Chile during the revolution. The poem is talking about Macchu Picchu and how they were ruled and then killed because of the Spaniards. Pablo Neruda acts as a speaker for the dead at Macchu Picchu and how they wish that they revolted. If they did their people could have survived. Chile was in the same predicament. this poem was created to inspire them so that they would understand that they needed to do something about the military uprising to gain their freedom.

Canto XII Response

This poem presents a theme of suffering, which it relates to the degeneration workers undergo to do jobs that involve creating things, such as farmers and potters. Neruda relates this to the suffering of Jesus, not only through the cross and stumbling imagery, but also through the idea that people can be risen from the dead, which is what the poem starts and ends with. Therefore, the prevalent motive of the poem is the idea that enough by channeling or transferring suffering through many people can be enough to stop death or bring back people from the dead. This, combined with the 'worker' idea, preaches a very obscure form of socialism, i.e., many people working together and sharing suffering can accomplish phenomenal things.

in Canto XII from the heights of Macchu Picchu by Pablo Naruda, he is showing sympathy toward the incan people, and placing himself responsible to voice their struggle and opression, and he feels that he must be their voice, where they cannot. i agree with nick that he is also making himself into a martyr. one line that exemplifies this is when Naruda says, "sharpen the knives you kept hidden away, thrust them into my breast, into my hands. this also exemplifies that he has a desire to become the voice of the dead incas, he wishes for them to take the struggles and suffering (knives) that others never knew, and thrust them into him (put their stuggles on him for him to voice to the world.

Pablo Neruda Macchu Picchu Response

The poem "Canto XII from the Heights of Macchu Picchu" is at first a poem reflecting the laborious lives of the Incas during the reign of the Conquistadors. Pablo Neruda seems to be sympathizing with the Incas' situation at the time. He is also comparing that time period to the 1960's; his time period. He states that through our revolt may your revolutionary spirit guide us in our battle against our oppressors; our conquistadors.

This poem almost seems to be a poem about learning from mistakes. The Incas did not fight back against their oppressors and therefore lacked any power and restrained their revolutionary spirits from fighting back. As Neruda looks back on the Incas' mistake, he believes taking action is far more efficient than being passive aggressive. This poem is about mistakes learned from the past and continuing that centuries old revolutionary spirit past down from generation to generation.

Canto XII from The Heights of Macchu Picchu is a poem by the famed Chilean poet Pablo Neruda. Is notable for it's use of suffering as a central theme. This theme represents the divergent ideas of Communism as well as Christianity. Neruda was a noted communist and this passion was reflected in his poetry, particularly in the second stanza. Where there are many references to the struggles and anxieties of ordinary working people. however as the poem moves on it then acquirers a more religious aspect in the 4th stanza their is a monologue that mentions thrusting knives "into my breast and into my hands". This bit particularly the hands is a not so subtle reference to the Crucifixion of Christ. Their are also more subtle hints to the poems religions overtones. The first stanza is an allegory of death and resurrection and even the title seems to imply a controlling force if not necessarily a god.

Canto XII from The Hights of Macchu Picchu - Pablo Neruda 1966

Neruda portrays himself as a martyr of the Inca people, particularly the working class, in this poem. He takes all of the struggles that the people have gone through and places it on his own shoulders. His aim is to draw attention to the people's incredible dedication to the land and to show the trials they have overcome. But he also makes it known that he does not know all about it and that he is ready to learn. He realizes that appreciation is needed, and he takes personal responsibility for it being neglected.

Neruda Poem

It sounds like Neruda is speaking to those who have died and those who came before. From the line "tiller of fields, weaver, reticent shepherd" it sounds like he is talking about everyday workers, not the elite. He is saying show me evidence of your struggle. I think he is acknowledging and honoring those who struggled to make a living. "I come to speak for your dead mouths" meaning he comes to speak for the dead who can not speak. From what I know about Nerda he was a man of the people and probably a socialist. I think he identified with the poor and the working class. "Speak through my speech, and through my blood." He used his poetry to highlight their plight, the poor etc.

Pablo Neruda

Pablo Neruda's poetry was written in spanish and the title of the poem is left untranslated which is important because the title means 'song'. The poem is in effect, a song to and for the working people of chile and since the 'song' was written to them the title is more significant when left in it's original language. In his song Neruda calls on the people to lift themselves up and out of the class's oppression. He tells them to use their grievances to their own advantage and to even use him as they please for their own purposes because he is one of them himself.

The poem varies subtly from a harsh reality and an exaggerated grotesque . He says that they have been buried in "the depths sown by [their] own sorrows" then suggests that they "light the axes gleaming with [their] blood." He then tells them to sharpen their knives of their pain and "thrust them into [his] breast". It's a very serious message to the people in Chile during this time because many people were struggling and there was a large movement towards communism and socialism. In his poem Neruda offers himself to the working class people as a voice that they may not have had otherwise.

Canto XII - Pablo Neruda

the poem is about the struggle and sacrifice that the proletariat is forced to undergo at the hands of the ruling class. in the poem the ancient Inca civilization, and their endless toil is a mirror for the modern working class. the narrator wishes to experience the hearts, minds and souls of the indigenous population. the speaker is paying homage to all workers as well as the Incas. through this honoring, the narrator wishes to absorb the anguish of his ancestors and eventually build and transform from their strength.

my prevalent theme in house of the spirits is the theme of magic. The theme of magical realism through out the book. The idea that Allende would have believe that there is simple magic in the air when in fact the instances are extreme but not completely out of reach of the imagination. i.e. the dog who never stops growing, this could be explained as just a large bread of dog for the dog dies as a puppy.

OP topic (Cody)

during my oral presentation i am going to discuss the constantly conflicting issue between religion and science. this argument has an affect on many characters, specifically Alba and Jaime. these two characters get thrown into this at a young age and develop their characters with these influences the whole time.

Oral Presentation topic

I am going to discuss feminism against patriarchy. I will focus on the Latin American society that Allende writes about and how that affects her characters. I also will show the change of feminism in the book and how that is related to the politic and to the country in general.

Tony's OP Topic

In my OP topic I'd like to talk about child birth and fear. I plan to focus on Clara, Esteban Trueba, Ferula, Blanca, and Alba by talking about how they deal with their fear for others or for themselves.

For my oral presantation I will seek to answer why Allende chooses to keep Estaban Trueba alive while most of his family dies around him through the years.

Bon's OP topic

I will be discussing the theme of magic and mysticism in the text. I want to discuss its effects on the characters and the plot. I will discuss how it was used and why it works to weave a believable story. I want to focus on two things. First, from a technical view- how Allende utilizes this element. Second, how the the characters utilize this and how they are manipulated by it. I also will to discuss how Allende contrasts the theme of magic by combining it with modern ideas and methods, as well as non-magical characters. I think I want to approach the topic from a anecdotal point of view and then lead into a discussion about the HOS... If I have a good story.

Thea's op topic

i will discuss the on going theme of realism vs fiction. I will demonstrate how each characters life experiences are apparent to the "magical" world . Clara is effected from the beginning because of her knowledge of the future, this is clear when she stops speaking after predicting her sisters death. Even though some characters don't have certain ability's themselves, they are still effected by the ones who do. Esteban Trubeba is a good example of this after being married to two of the few people among the society who have those abilities. I will also discuss the reasoning behind the authors choice to use a hybridity such as this one.

James OP

I will be discussing fear through the novel. I plan to describe why fear is used through the novel and how it effects characters. The characters of the novel experience fear through the whole story. The effect of it on characters develops the story. Allende uses fear to show deeper emotions in people, leading them to have to change drastically to survive. Fear is a illusion of the mind used to shield one from facts that changes ones own body. The main focus will be on Estaban Truebas has his own fear of many things including His daughter and granddaughter. His fear is of love between two different classes of people that he feels will destroy his family name and everything he has worked towards. This causes him to react to try and change things that he can't.

For my OP topic, I will discuss Old World Tradition vs. Modernity and Socialism in House of the Spirits. I will then compare Tradition and Modernity from the book to reality, and why some people want to cling on to Tradition and why others want change.

Josh's OP topic

I will discuss the unavoidable nature of one's fate. Fate is an ongoing theme in House of the Spirits. The characters appear to be victims of circumstance that have been created as a result of their actions. Clara's marriage to Esteban seems to be predetermined. Their union was tragically established as a result of Clara's sister's death, as Esteban was originally engaged with Rosa. Alba's relationship with Miguel is the result of a series of twists and turns which eventually reunites the two. Blanca's connection to Pedro begins during childhood on a chance encounter, and evolves into a deep romantic relationship which grips the two through out their years.

Ninas OP Topic Yay

I plan to discuss the novel's descent from the saturation of cultural magic and tradition into a reality that more resembles our own. This is a key theme that represents of the dilution and loss of traditionalism from the forced integration of modernization (both of technology and ideology) of the country of Chile creating a hybridization where one entity slowly over comes and destroys the other.

Nathan's OP

I plan on doing my O.P. on the concept of lust within the novel. It has an extremely powerful effect on all of the characters involved and I will discuss the role and changes it forces upon them as the story progresses.

Alex's OP topic

I plan to discuss the importance of love and family through House of Spirits. I will be comparing the families of the novel to those of Allende's family to attempt to draw a reason of why Allende portrays family as so important throughout her novel.

Isa's OP topic

My OP topic will focus on how the reader is driven to believe in what is being said. In the sense of how the magical and mysterious aspects of the novel don't contradict the technical part (such as politics and science) and what are the techniques that Allende use in order to not only make the reader feel sympathy for the characters involved on it, but also, the story as a role.

Rikki's OP Topic

I am going to discuss class struggles in House of the Spirits. I will focus on the Latin American society that Allende writes about and how that affects her characters. I will also look at the viewpoints of the characters who come from aristocracy (such as the del Valles and Truebas) and those who come from peasantry (such as the Garcias) and the conflict that these class struggles bring along

Dany's OP Topic

I choose to discuss the power struggles in the book, such as the rise of socialism in the politics of Chile and also at Tres Marias. I plan to examine how the residents of Tres Marias escape Esteban Trueba's 'monarchy', and also how a 'socialism' (Estaban not having power) emerges even at the House on the Corner. I then plan to explain how the transitions in Tres Marias and the House on the Corner are inevitable due to the actions of certain characters in the book, most obviously Esteban Trueba.

Hayley OP topic

I am going discuss the role passion plays in the novel. There are many different kinds of passion, romantic passion, lustful passion, political passion, spiritual passion and vindictive passion. I will select characters and relationships in the novel to exemplify these passion and how they rule opinions and sometimes destroy individual lives.

Nick's OP Topic

I will talk about the concept of a mother being the anchor of a family. I will evaluate the evidence of this so far in The House of The Spirits, and I will compare it to evidence that I will pull from Allende's own life and current statistics. This is to see if Allende chooses to portray mothers as the ones who hold together families to make a feminist point, to see if its a representation of her life, or to see if it is simply used coincidentally.

Eric's OP topic

I intend to investigate how Estaban Truaba's later life foreshadows the political fate of Chile in the early 1970's. First by showing how Estaban loses everything that he had worked for all of this life, and then by explaining how this rise and fall mirrors the election of "the candidate" or President Salvador Allende and then the coup and the rise of General Augousto Pinochet.

The largest example of a problematic binary in House of the Spirits is that between beauty and the grotesque. This is illustrated clearly in the instance of Rosa the Beautiful. She is portrayed as somebody of stunning beauty, a girl who is even shined upon by God because she is so pretty. But as the narrative of Rosa continues, it is found out that, in actuality, she has many strange physical features, such as green hair and yellow eyes. Her beauty in the first chapter is also contradicted by her surroundings. In the midst of a somewhat "ugly" community, one that features animals such as Barrabas, stands Rosa the Beautiful. The only catch is that she really isn't all that beautiful. 

Another problematic binary is that between children and adults in the book. There are quite a few cases in which we see children having to take care of their parents, such as in the case of Esteban and Ferula. The book seems to have issues between children and adults in that the children themselves reach adulthood and are ready to grow up and move on with their lives, but their parents and families end up holding them back.

problematic binary

I think that relationships between men and women create problematic binaries in several chapters of the book. For example Esteban loves his mother but chooses to abandon her for almost all of his adult life. He's not abandoning her because he didn't love, he's abandoning her

because he can't deal with long illness and the responsibilities it brings. Ferula is another example of a problematic binary in the same situation. She is expected to look after her mother because of the culture she lives in. In public she puts on a good face but in private she resents her mother and her brother because her youth is wasted. A different problematic binary is seen in the character of Rosa. She is said to be very beautiful yet Allende describes her with unnatural and sea like green hair.

Ignorance and education

One of the many problematic binaries in HOS is that between the ignorance of the people of Tres Maries and the seeming desire to have them educated by Estaban Trueaba. When Estaban returns to his plantation of Tres Maries in chapter two he immediately begins to rebuild it to his, western educated, wishes. He institutes many reforms and builds modern facilities, he also rebuilds the main house. Since all of the residents there were simple farmers they were taught the necessary skills by Estaban from the books that he got from a mail order catalogue. He also proposes building a 6 room school house because he aspired to the day when all the children and adults of Tres Maries would be able to read write and do simple arithmetic"(Allende 59). This may make it seem that he is in favor of the education of his peasants. However this quote goes on "even though he was not in favor of them acquiring any additional learning, for fear that they would fill their minds with ideas unsuited to their station and condition"(Allende 59). This is quite an abrupt turn around and brilliantly highlights how Esbaban was trying in equal measure to keep his peasants ignorant whale at the same time trying to educate them.

The problematic binaries are prevalent in the story of The house of the spirits. IN the story there are many contradicting ideas as well as many binary that are to say the least problematic. For example the idea as described in the first chapter that Rosa is beautiful when she has the charicteristics of a sea dueling creature. As well as the over all dictatorship of man over women through out the story, and the will of clara and her mother to have equal rights.

Problematic Binaries

In House of the Spirits, one of the main problematic binaries as of yet is the old world man domination/patriarchy vs. the new feminism "revolution". This can be seen through the characters of Clara and Esteban. Clara carries on her mother's desire to have women speak out, to go for office and to gain power within their families. In this, Clara represents a new modernized world. Esteban, although he has a want to stay in the know, refuses to change his old worldly views that men should be the Patrons, of their families, and this is how it should stay.

Problematic binaries

There are many problematic binaries in chapter 1 to 3 of The House of The Spirits. One of them is the conflict between women and men. This is seen in the Trueba family. Ferula, Esteban's sister, has no problems talking care of her sick mother, if somebody ask her, but sometimes she is jealous of her brother Esteban. He is able to go out, travels, has his work, and comes only sometimes back home. But Ferula is not mad of his brother because he has a better life, she does not like the rules in the community. She wishes to have the same freedom as Esteban but she can not do it because the society at this time expected that women have a different life stile than men.
Another example of the conflict between women and men is Pancha Garcia. Esteban rapes her and he does not get in trouble. Pancha grew up in this society therefore she does not fight about it. She expected something like this. Also Esteban knows that he would not get in trouble because he knows that men has more rights than women at this time.

One way to summarize all the "Problematic Binaries" of House of Spirits is "Old vs New". The obvious conflicts being; Science and Religion, Man and Woman, Rural Technologies and New Technologies. These create Political problems for the reader as their opinion is manipulated by the dialogue and writing in the novel. For example the natural remedies that Nana relies on are used much more then the ones the doctor gives the characters. If memory serves, every baby in this novel has been born at home instead of a hospital. An example how the readers opinion is twisted is when the motorcar comes into the picture. The novel talks about how the community hated the motorcar and it outlines all the problems with it leading the reader to believe that the motor car was some horrible contraption when really we use cars today in everyday life. The Characters are conflicted by the Spiritualism versus Religion in which Clara has mystic abilities and is concidered a demon by the church.

theas post: problematic binaires

In the House of the Spirits there are many problematic binaries. One is the way the men treated the women. Esteban trubeba proves this in his actions held towards Pancha Garcia. Through his eyes, he sees women as just something to fulfill his sexual requirements. Although the way he treated the young girl resulted in no consequences, it was common for that relationship to be established, especially given the society and culture that both Pancha and Esteban grew up in. Most men in that time had the same view about women having equal rights. Estabans view changes after meeting clara, and his actions towards women becomes acceptable.

As the plot develop itself, we can see a variety of problematic binaries. One in special, is beauty x grotesque. The first chapter has as a title: "Rosa the beautiful", which insinuates that the reader will see beautiful descriptions, but as the reader goes through the chapter, the beauty is contradicted by Barrabas' arrival for example, or the situations in which Clara get involved in the church. For the characters it become a role in which everything starts to contradict itself, beginning by Clara's beauty and her strange powers.

There are many varying problematic binaries in The House of the Spirits, but a primary one is religion vs. science. Two of the daughters represent how science is constantly being mixed with religious concepts and their constant game of tug-of-war.

Rosa is just a bizarre but beautiful outcome of genetics yet she is constantly compared to an angel of sorts. The people are always looking for religion in things that have no religious implications at all. Clara, on the other hand, has mental powers that people can easily dismiss as the devil's work

I think one problematic binary in HOS is the conflicting opinions between children and adults. This is especially prevalent around Clara, because of her special abilities. In a sense, these abilities make her superior to her elders, and not just different. The irony, of course, is that children are definitely not ever seen as even being capable of having any sort of edge over their adult counterparts. Clara exercises this superiority through her clairvoyance, since the adults in the del Valle family rely on her to understand and prepare for the future. They are so dependent that they readily accept anything that she predicts, and even though it remains true, I believe that they would believe anything she would say. In this sense, the child figure is controlling the adult figure, an idea that is rarely true. Clara seems to be fully aware of this 'dominance', and believes she can exercise it where she wills, for example cussing in church. In fact, not only does she swear, but she also doubts the priest's authority.The idea of a child doubting, not just any adult but one with a great amount of abstract control, clearly outlines that there is an obvious conflict between who has the 'real' authority in the events having to do with Clara.

One problematic binary in The House of The Spirits is that of colonizer vs colonized. When Esteban trueba takes over as the Patron of Tres Marias, he rapes the peasant girls there who he is the "boss" of. Pedro segundo has a relationship with Esteban much like a relationship that a chief of an indian tribe would have with a conquistador. Pedro hates Esteban, but also carries a resentful feeling of admiration and respect for him. The peasantry of Tres Marias feel roughly the same way toward Esteban, and while Esteban continues to rape young peasant girls, and treat the workers poorly, it creates a mounting tension within Tres Marias. I am going out on a limb a little, but i think that this mounting tension at Tres Marias will climax in a large event, that greatly effects Esteban, and the peasants of Tres Marias.

Identify one problematic binary in the first three chapters of The House of The Spirits, and explain (in 1-2 paragraphs) how it creates "political" problems for either the protagonists or the reader.

I believe that in The House of The Spirits there is major binary problem of religion versus spirituality. Clara's father is forced to go to church even though he is an atheist because of his political ambitions. By doing this he also brings Clara, who is known for her supernatural capabilities, into a vulnerable position. When she directly challenges God's preacher she left a large gap open for her entire family to be criticized for months. She was directly accused of being possessed by the devil while her father's political ambitions were dented. The rest of the family also had to lay low for a while because during those times one persons' mistakes would be seen as the family's mistakes. While Clara's direct attack on the church affected her entire family, the church struck back by shaming them for an indefinite amount of time. The issue between the physical representatives of spirituality and religion, I feel, is magnified by the fact that they are able to conflict with each other with actual physical consequences.

There are many problematic binaries in the first three chapters of The House of The Spirits, one of which is the conflict between man and woman. This is seen between Esteban Trueba and Ferula, his sister. Ferula claims she is okay with taking care of her sick mother in the way that she does, but when there is nobody to see her generosity, she becomes resentful of her brother. Esteban goes out, works, travels, and comes home to visit his sister and his mother very rarely. Ferula's complaints are not at her brother, for his freedom, but at the sexist norms of the community. Ferula does not volunteer for the disgusting jobs because truly wants to help – she volunteers because that is what her society expects out of her because she is the woman and Esteban is the man.

Esteban is also in another sexist relationship, but this one is with Pancha Garcia. Esteban rapes her violently, and suffers no immediate consequence. In fact, the incedent only allows Esteban to manipulate Pancha furthur and she begins to become his full time kitchen and sex worker. She puts up no fight because she has been exposed to the culture her whole life, and expected such a thing to happen. Esteban shows no restraint, because he knows that in this community, he can get away with raping a fifteen year old girl.

Politics of problematic binaries

Identify one problematic binary in the first three chapters of The House of The Spirits, and explain (in 1-2 paragraphs) how it creates "political" problems for either the protagonists or the reader.

TIMED WRITING ASSIGNMENT WEDNESDAY

All,

We will be conducting a timed writing activity in class on Wednesday on ONE of the following questions (you may choose):

You may also bring in one 8 1/2 x 11" paper with your thoughts, quotes, outline prepared.

1. Is Santiago a successful scapegoat for the town? Explain why or why not.

2. How does Marquez subvert the genre of tragedy in Chronicle? Explain.

Creative Writing Workshop is Wednesday

Don't forget that the second Creative Writing workshop is next Wednesday, 2/17.

Question and Thesis

Q: What does the shift of the old waiter point of view towards the old guy on "A clean, well-lighted place" affects the reader?

Thesis: The reader starts to feel sympathy instead of just seeing the old deaf guy as a drunk, lonely man.

Question and Thesis

Question- What role does grammatical discussion and change in Blow Up and The Verb To Kill play?

Thesis- Grammatical discussion and change symbolizes confusion and twists within the stories.

Thesis

Question: What does the old man symbolize in " The Verb to Kill" ?

Thesis: The old man in " The Verb to Kill" symbolizes fear.

Question and Thesis

Question: In A Clean, Well Lighted Place, why does Hemingway include instances of first-person narration with the older waiter?

Thesis: Hemingway uses the occasional first person to provide a deeper characterization on the older waiter by giving the reader the advantage of seeing him from two perspectives.

Thesis

Question: "In the story 'Blow Up' what does Michelle do to the photograph and why?

Thesis: "Michelle of 'Blow Up' is blowing up a picture physically but in actuality he's searching for answers by diving into the image"

Thesis

Question: How is emotion evoked in a Clean Well Lighted Place?
Thesis: Hemingway uses light and language to evoke hope in the cafe setting and desperation in the smoky bar.

Question: Why does the author tell the story from a bum’s point of view?

Thesis: Valenzuela chooses to tell the story from the bum’s point of view to highlight the selfishness and blindness of middle class. By using someone outside of mainstream society to point out our inhumanity to our fellow man, the author challenges our assumptions about people who are marginalized in our society.

How do “assumptions” negatively affect the outcomes of The Verb to Kill and Who, Me a Bum?

Assumptions negatively affect the outcomes of The Verb to Kill and Who, Me a Bum? By creating a false realities for the story’s characters to brew and fester in so that they are already agitated when they need to interact in the material reality.

What is the purpose of Valenzuela illustrating such explicit and riciculous assumptions of the two main characters in the short story, The Verb to Kill?

The author Valenzuela's intent in portraying the escalating, irrational, obsession with the man, by the two girls, highlights the extreme nature of assumptions.

Question: How does Ernest Hemmingway create a sense of loneliness in the story A Clean Well Lighted Place ?
Thesis: Ernest Hemmingway uses descriptive language and isolates the protagonist in his story A Clean Well Lighted Place in order to create a sense of loneliness.

Question: In "A Verb to Kill", why do the girls feel like they need to prove their courage to a complete stranger? More or less someone who might kill them in which their courage would be irrelevant?

Thesis: In the short story "A Verb To Kill", the two main characters want to prove their courage to a possible "serial killer". This is because of their want for independence from their society and family. Not only this, but they also have a desire to feel safe around a potential killer. Proving their courage to that man serves just that.

Time and Photography: Thea's post

Time and Photography is only relatable in one way. Like how cotazar describes it, a photograph is just an image of an event frozen in time. Capturing one single image takes an event going on at the time and keeps it frozen, essentially stopping time. Each photo holds mystery of what was going on at the time. Bringing perspective into our discussion once again. One person might look at a photo, see it and think that at the time something was going on, and another person might look at the same photo and think that a totally different event had just occurred. Giving each person their own original take on each photographic image. A photo only captures one single event, straight down to the last second after the shutter opens and closes. It holds no time continuum it only takes one single event and freezes it in perfection. Otherwise like in the end of Blow-Up the images would begin to come off the page.

Photography and time

I don't think that photo and time can be compared because even though the photographic image needs time in order to exist, the time won't need photo to exist but only to remain saved. Because as a natural element, the time doesn't need anything else besides itself.

Although one doesn't necessarily needs the other, a photo needs a certain amount of time, so it can be effective, in the sense that the image will be reproduced correctly.

But even knowing that photography is able to be the really faithful to the reality, the fact that it is limited to a frame, and can be edited, makes me think twice about trust or not in a photographic image.

The River of Time

Time is an unstoppable flow of nature. A moment in time is over before it even starts. A moment in time is measured from an hour down to the milla-second. Photography and film capture a moment in time mechanically , and unnaturally preserve it for the viewer. The flow of time is like a river, each moment pass's by and is recorded in the memory of the brain; but with the help of technology, moments can be preserved electronically. This in turn changes the feeling of a moment, Christmas mourning would have a different feeling to one if they saw pictures compared to actually being there. The content of a photo is different then the actual experience.

a photograph is a moment in time captured and preserved. it is the moment where the boy opens his christmas present. it is a single moment that cannot be replicated or altered (at least not hold its authenticity if this is done). Time never stops in our world but in the world of a picture time does not move at all. the moment is frozen. photographs are a very trustworthy medium as they are an exact replication of a single moment in time, however if one needed to know what happened right before the photo was taken there would be no real way of knowing. the picture can only show a small fraction of a much larger picture that is constantly moving. because time never stops it can only be preserved through things such as art and photography.

Time & Photographs

I believe that time and photographic images can be compared greatly. In terms of time, since images stay still preserved in time, the photo does nothing to time itself. But in given situations, the expression of time through a photograph is possible, however it takes imagination on the viewer's part. For example, imagine an image of somebody throwing a ball. The picture itself is frozen in time, but the viewer can easily imagine the ball getting to point B. So therefore the expression of time through a photograph lies in the hands of the viewer, not the creator. Personally I trust a photograph more than something such as a painting for a reproduction of reality because a photograph mimics exactly what is really there, but due to human imperfections, a painting of something could be much more warped from reality than a photograph can be. However, nobody can really argue that either medium is one you can trust for the truth, because how can we prove that any of it is real? We can't.

the photographic image captures a split second of a past moment in time, and in this way it stops time and preserves it. however, time does not stop; it is ever changing and continuous. this opposition between the two clearly shows that they are contrasting, and cannot be compared. currently the photograph and film are the most reliable source of information and evidence. i would trust a photograph over any other form of medium because it is more accurate at portraying real life. this is only absolute assuming that the photograph in question is not tampered with or edited.

Photos in many ways is an effort to keep time from getting any one just a little older. Humans are always in search of the next best thing; the new beauty product the new way to last for ever. In the end time is the victor in the sense that every will die one day. As well as the photograph and the photographer will one day be out of style. time is not like the photograph because time will always refute the works of a photographer.

the photographic image captures a split second of a past moment in time, and in this way it stops time and preserves it. however, time does not stop; it is ever changing and continuous. this opposition between the two clearly shows that they are contrasting, and cannot be compared. currently the photograph and film are the most reliable source of information and evidence. i would trust a photograph over any other form of medium because it is more accurate at portraying real life. this is only absolute assuming that the photograph in question is not tampered with or edited.

Relationship between time and photographic image

It is difficult to compare time and a photography, because photography is a frozen moment of time. It is a past event and time never goes in the past it flows in the future that means that a moment never stops it is always going on. Pictures are also incorrect. It shows us only a part of a situation and therefore people don't understand it right and start to built his/her own opinion. That means that you never could put a whole moment in one picture. And you also never feel the same if you see a picture than in this moment when the picture was making. A picture is only for enjoyment.

Photography and time

The relationship between photography and time is a hard thing to pin-point. A photograph is a still image, less than a second of time flash frozen for later enjoyment. The instant it is taken it becomes a past event. Time flows, without regard to what happened in the past. where as a photograph is Created by events of the past. A moment in time is so much more then just an event that is easily captured. Pictures cannot be trusted because they are misread. Pictures are incorrect representations of time because they do not display every thing happening in the scene, just a visual representation. For instance a picture of a football game will not display what the crowd was yelling, how cold it was on that day or how exited everyone at the game was. A photograph may be more accurate then an artist's painting but it can never be a perfect representation of time.

Photography cannot be compared with time because it is not meant to capture "time". Photography is meant to capture a feeling, an emotion or even a simple action. For example, in Blow Up michel is taking a picture of the young man and the woman. during this he examines the scene and assumes many different things about the scene. He pretends to know about the young mans brother and many other details that he cannot possibly know. This implies that he is not trying to capture time so much as the feelings that are shared between the two people.

Photography and Time

Photography can be compared to time because of the fact that a photo is a snippet of time. A picture is a tool used to capture a moment in time that will allow the person to recall that memory. The picture stops time for the image even though time and life itself continues to move on. A photo has the unique ability to capture a scene in that very moment. Yes the image can be manipulated and altered but the image is meant to be for the individual who is capturing the image. So i feel that yes the image can be trusted, but for the individual who the image is important to.

The relationship between time and the photographic image

Photographic images contain the memory an event or moment that will forever be lost in time. While time keeps on moving and the world keeps on spinning, photographic images will stay with us forever. They are an accurate way of looking back in time and being able to see things that we may not have been alive to witness. Photographic images are able to break the barrier between the past and the present because they are able to take a person back and help them understand or look back on moments that are no longer. The image cannot do anything to time, but time can change the image or the viewer's perspective of the image. A photograph of old friends that was once much loved could suddenly become a bitter reminder of a lost friendship. But the photograph itself cannot do anything to time, only time itself can change the perspective on the image. 

Photographic and filmic images are very effective in what they do because they are meant to capture time. They are meant to make a memory last forever and are effective in doing so because they can visually be passed down from generation to generation in ways that simply telling a story cannot. They are also much more trustworthy than other mediums because they are instant and cannot be changed once taken.

Time and the photographic are connected with each other in that they contradict each other. The whole point of a photographic image is to stop time. It's purpose is to capture a moment. Time however keeps moving which in effect outdates the photo and makes it unreliable. The passage of time is lost in an image because the image is isolated in it's time. Because of this the photographic image can be representing a reality of time but it is in truth only representing the reality. It is not showing what is truly happening because the moment of time that it captured is gone. This renders its effectiveness almost useless in re-creating reality. However, in a sense that it is reproducing reality, it excels in that the only major flaw is the perception of the human. The photographic image compares equally to other mediums in that they are saturated in emotional truth while the image allows a person to add none.

The relationship between time and photography

A photographic image is able to capture and moment in time and freeze it an eternity. An early photograph for example one taken during the civil war can transport you back you back to that one moment in time instead of imagining what a young union soldier looked like. Obviously you need many photographs to represent time in general but only one photograph is needed for a moment in time and therefore time and the photographic image can be compared at some level. An image illuminates a moment in time but it can also cause the viewer to generalize. I think it is possible to connote time through multiple photographs of the same subjects because the details change. However its not possible with one if you have nothing to compare it to. With a single image you can read into it but essentially you’re just making up a back-story for what you see. I don’t consider any art form a reliable method of conveying reality however photography is certainly capable of reproducing an object very realistically.

Photo vs. Time

The photographic image is entirely dependent on the concept of time. The whole idea of photography is to be able to capture an image in time with exact realism that a painting or other medium could not. They can not be compared in the sense of similarities and differences simply due to the fact that the photographic image is a derivative of time. The photo is a material object that only attempts to save a moment in time through visual means. Although the photographic image can capture a moment in time with 100% visual accuracy, it often times has difficulty reproducing the same level of thought or emotion that, say, a painting might. A certain level of desire and passion could be lost in the simplicity of pressing a button, whereas other artistic form require an extreme amount of manual effort to express things.

the motion of photografs

Time and photographs have a contradictory relationship but not so much, so that they are rendered incongruous. They may seem to be inherently contradictory, time being in a state of constant motion and pictures being still. However it would seem to me that if time is indeed in a state of Constant motion then any picture is also in constant motion only in a cycle that covers such a tiny fraction of a second that it's movment is indicenible. If this principal holds ture then the only way to get an actual still photograph is to cool the shrouding of the camera to absolute zero. Now just because the photograph may also be moving may not describe that photographsa are an accurate depicter of realigy but rather only an accurate depicter of what it sees, and what is sees may be altered by human interference or anything for that matter. This then makes the photograph aas unreliable as any other art form in experssing reallity because for a photograph to be taken it must be taken by a human and therefor is subject to the same subjective errors as painting or any other forms of self expression.

Photography and Time

I do not think that Time and Photography can easily be compared. Yes, the object of photography is to capture a moment in time but that moment of time is relatively false because there is no exact time of when it was taken. Time continues to move while pictures freeze time. However, they can be compared by saying that photography is related to moments and aspects in time. I suppose, if it was clear to see the sun in the picture, one could determine the hour the picture was taken but even then, is not exact. Its' not exact because first of all the sun is too bright to look at for a period to guess minuets and secondly, there is no exact place in the sky where seconds or even minutes are positioned. I think it depends on what you want to affect, what your main idea is. If its' just a picture to show a couple or of scenery its main idea is to affect the viewer and to give he/she an emotional feeling. If the picture is taken for study or for evidence its' to prove a point. Therefore I think that the effectiveness of photography is based on what the main point to take the picture is. I do trust this mechanical medium over others because surroundings although sometimes blurry are not made up; the shadows are real, the people are real ect.

The Relationship Between Photography and Time

Time and the photographic image have an interesting relationship. While the photographic image is an excellent recorder of a certain moment, it leaves out very much and is in fact misleading in what it does capture. For instance, the photograph leaves out all senses accept for sight it its approximation of a moment. This is an injustice to the moment, because just then there could have been a singer behind the camera sweetening the air. Or, somebody trying to trick the viewer could be holding the subject of the photo at gunpoint, and unfortunately, they are just outside the frame. The photograph, essentially, cannot properly display time. There is no movement in a picture, and one can only see what is presented to them. Unfortunately, this is a common misapprehension. Far too many people rely on still photography for the truth about a time. This division of truth and time has been lessened by the video camera and filmic recordings, but thanks to modern technology, a still photograph is often times more trustworthy.

Question: What is the relationship between Time and the photographic Image?

Consider the following when answering:

- Can they be compared?
- What does the image do to time or vice-versa?
- Is it possible to connote the passage of time via the image? Why or why not?
- What does your relationship between the two say about the effectiveness of the (photographic, filmic) image?
- Do you trust the photograph over other mediums as a reproduction of reality?

Also: You must comment on a minimum of two other posts (not this post) in order to receive full credit.

perspective is the definition of something according to an individual. we all see things differently, and in different perspectives. perspective can very by peer group. for example a child growing up in the slums of india has a very different perspective on life than a child growing up in the suburbs in the US. it is hard to change perspective unless someone is placed out of their comfort zone and experiencing something new. For example if the child in india were to switch places with the child in the US both of their perspecives on life. perspective is all based on the environment one lives their day to day life in and their peer group.

Perception

Perspective, to me, is one's point of view, and everyone has an altering perspective of the world. After perseiving an event or object, people then judge it, both consciencously and uncsiencously. Our perseption is shaped and evolved from the experiences in our lives. Through the past we persieve the future. Past hardships, or easy experiences can affect the way we see what is around us. For example, if someone has an opinion of one thing which they enjoy, but then they experience something of trauma, they wont persieve it the same way. They now perieve it in a negative connotation.

Perspective is the way something is seen. Perspective could be one's point of view on an issue, or in a more literal sense, the physical angle at which one views an object or scene. One's point of view on an issue can be affected by nurture, or one's education in general. One's literal view on an object or scene can be affected by any number of things. In real life, a person walking can obstruct your view, or an untimely blink even. That is all dependent on chance. But there are other times when one's literal view of something is manipulated intentionally. The most obvious of these situations is a film. The camera angle and the focus takes complete control of the viewer and can control the way the film is presented. The viewer has literally no control. To shift one's perspective, a change needs to occur. This can be manifested in a gain of knowledge or a physical accident. Most of the time, the change appears to be minimal, or does not apear at all, but it is there, and after a while will become more influential.

Perspective is based upon the environment one is brought up in. Perspective is based on many different factors. If someone is blind from the day they are born, then they would have a completely different understanding of reality then someone with 20/20 vision. Another factor, is the home someone is brought up in, a christian run household is different then a muslim run household. They beliefs in the two households are different, the food, the culture, and the holidays. These are all elements of different perspective that influence the understanding of reality.

theas post # 3 perspective

Perspective to me is each persons opinionated view on a subject. Its defined as a personal view. Most perspective varies from person to person , because its their own personal take the subject. There are many things that could contribute to perspective. One being brought up in a different situation. For example poverty, being brought up in a more wealthy manor may cause a person to be more "blind sighted" towards people struggling with money issues. Situations where i hear a certain story can change my perspective on the subject after hearing it from another person. Other situations could involve more experience on the subject, therefore altering your opinion.

Cody's Post

perspective in my opinion is the way in which the reader depicts the aspects of the story, these aspects can be the characters, the setting, the events and everything else that contributes to the overall storyline. I believe that every author has a picture in their head while they write their novels and stories, but those pictures are in "their" heads, not the readers. everyone has different reactions to what they read and different thoughts about what they read. these thoughts and reactions create a picture in their heads of the setting, the characters and everything else in the story. this is all personal and nobody can change that picture because no matter how much you describe it to them, they can never see the exact same thing as u. i also believe that perspective can be a complete mental and emotional thing beyond the minds image. many things that happen in a book or story spark up memories and feelings that people wouldn't normally have. I believe that this is all caused by the persons past and how they felt what the characters are feeling or at least something similar in a way that they can relate to that character and it can humanize that character and make the reader get to know them better and feel like they are a real person.

i apologize for this not being on the blog, but when i was on the page there was no "new post" button and it wouldn't let me do anything, so i will try to figure it out, and i hope this will suffice until i get that sorted out

perspective like ones opinion cant be wrong or viewed exactly like one individual does. in other words perspective is some thing that cannot be forced upon ones neighbor much like an opinion or ever a religion. perspective is what my divide us as people or bring a group together. perspective is what make it so that not every one wants that new BMW but instead the run down v w bug. in short the beauty or perspective is truly in the eye of the individual beholder.

Perspective

To me perspective is some ones point of view. Your perspective is based on everything that you have experienced in life. But perspective is not set in stone. It's constantly changing because we are experiencing new things. Usually perspective is a limitation because it is hard for us to see anothers view point or idea because we are so set in our certain perspective. This makes anyone elses perspective challenging to understand because they will obviously view things different then you just like people view colors differently.

Perspective

A definition of perspective could be how one or more people view a person, subject. Whatever the subject. Every person has a view on how something is the way it is, and this view is influenced greatly by perspective. There are two sided to every story. Usually a person is given only one side of the story so they make assumptions to who was right or wrong. They don't care if they made the right choice, because they were only given one side. Each side of a story thinks it is right. Only when given all sides of the story can a person make a educated decision on what they think is right or wrong. Perspective is very important and without it being properly given the wrong assumptions of something can go very wrong. My uncle, because he was in Vietnam, hates and Vietnamese people with a passion. The military trained him to be this way by telling them only what they wanted him to hear. The same may be for a Vietnamese person hating Americans. Because of the differences in perspective hate has grown out of it and a uneducated person could make a horrible decision depending on that ones perspective.

Perspective

Perspective to me is the point of view in which a story is told. If I were to define it I would say the same thing. How it is controlled or influenced can be from a wide range of things, such as how much the author knows about something, or how the author feels about something. So I would argue that it is the author who influences and controls it. Shifting a perspective of someone is very different from changing perspective in a story. For a story, it is simple, the author merely writes from a new point of view. But shifting the perspective of an individual requires much more. Doing this takes things like a well presented argument, possibly facts, and most importantly something that the individual can relate to.

The definition of perspective

Perspective is the sum of all of our past experiences, abilities, and what ever knowledge that has been learned by us as individuals. Perspective acts as a thick lens over our senses that affects our view of the universe. We are often not aware that we are even wearing these perspectives but every one is affected by it and no two are the same. Since it is the sum total of all of our past experiences it is changing constantly but dramatic changes are often the most notable. Like when my parents got divorced my perspective and I lost it’s sense of invulnerability to the world

Perspective

I believe that perspective in the literal sense is the method of observation, in any sensual way, to view an object, person, or event at a given location or angle. For example, a photograph is limited to the sense of sight, and the frame of reference (location, angle, subject) of the camera. These limitations are the perspective of the photo. Figuratively, perspective can be the interpretation of that observation, or in other words, an opinion. Just as two cameras cannot be in the same frame of reference at one given point in time, therefore cannot have the same perspective, people are also observing the same things in a completely different frame of reference, and thus have different figurative perspectives. To change perspective, usually one must change the frame of reference; for the camera, it can be moved, and the person can try to observe through others' experiences.

Perspective to me is the way in which someone views things, usually an opinion of sorts. It is commonly formed by the experiences they face in life and the consequences one faces during them. For me, the main thing that makes me change my perspective is a well thought out argument. Something that sounds like the subject is cared about. Make me change my mind by giving me a reason to.

i forget if the name goes on there automatically so im nina

For me, perspective is one angle of an entire view. The more knowledge or experience that is acquired should not shift a person from one side or another of that view. I believe that gaining knowledge or experience should only expand one's perception of a situation or life and help them make decisions and opinions more objectively. I find that many people take new knowledge and experience, rearrange their thoughts on a subject, and completely ignore the perspective that they had before. This narrows their perspective rather than broadening it. It's important to remember that, even if you are inclined to one perspective over another, the other does have its own weight and validity that others may value more than your own.

Perspective

To me, perspective is like one side of a story where its facts are based on if you were there or not. Perspective is often truth mixed in with prejudices, opinions and misconceptions. Therefore, perspective is not often a good way to look at truth. Perspective is also mainly based on what the viewer wants to see because they know they can distort the facts so whatever they see becomes true to them.

Perspective

Perspective is the oppinion of individual interpretation. It shows us how different people see the same thing. It is therefore a part of human being. An every day example of this is music. For one person is techno the best music, but a different person completly disagree with this. That makes every person special.